So I say I'm born in Canada, but I'm Chinese.
So when people think,I say, made in China or this work were based in China and it gives them a bad stigmatism, I have to be very aware of everything that I do and everything that I say so that if someone from an international level is looking at the product that we're making or looking at the creative designs or the ideas that were coming out of, we can be proud to say that "Yeah. This is made in china."
The first time I ever went to Nike, I told them, "Hey！We need a shoe. We need to make a shoe."
And they were like "oh...ah...well, it's...You are a Hong Kong based company. We've never done products from Hong Kong."
And I said, "half your shoes are made in China. But what you're talking about like how can you not give us a voice in the international market when you rely on our people to make half of your products?"
It took me three years to keep showing them what we do , showing them that we're not, you know, we're not at a lower level than other creators.